The Evangelists Podcast


You all subscribe right? Here's the last couple of episodes: Episode 95: "Your God will be my God and your people, my people" If that's conversion, what does evangelism look

Economics: Andrew Wilson and Vishal Mangalwadi


A great talk by Andrew Wilson on Economics: Economics from Kings Church on Vimeo. He identifies 3 false bogeymen: Profit, Credit and Inequality. None of these are bad. What's bad is: Greed, Laziness and

Happy Ascension Day


My favourite depiction of ascension is THIS VIDEO from 1:55 My favourite sermon is Dev Menon's Classic: http://www.christthetruth.org.uk/AscensionSermonDevMenon.mp3   Another incredible sermon by Paul

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We've got some great people wanting to join us - who else wants to study with @UnionTheology and/or train with us? pic.twitter.com/64bhW4U3Mc— Glen Scrivener ن (@glenscrivener) May 12, 2015 God is Joy – Ps 45:7;

Shining, Sowing and Investing in Christ's Outgoing Kingdom


A sermon on SHINING (Matthew 5:14-16); SOWING (Mark 4:26-29) and INVESTING (Matthew 25:14-30) Parables: Outgoing King, Outgoing Kingdom from CCK on Vimeo. DOWNLOAD AUDIO

House of Tweet


What's the place of "apologetics"? I debate the issue with Tom Price (@abetterhope) http://www.premierchristianity.com/Blog/Apologetics-sermons-rarely-work  If by "apologetics" you mean "persuasive, thoughful, contextualised

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Today proves it beyond question: Jesus was a pedobaptist pic.twitter.com/9WG5qDrDDy — Glen Scrivener ن (@glenscrivener) April 2, 2015 Wait a minute. Did Jesus wash His own feet? It's hard to picture it. If He didn't then

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Born Sinking Into Quicksand (Hebrews 2:14-18) Jesus Going Up - His People Going Out (Matthew 28:10-18) Evangelists' Podcast: Answering Unbelievers' Top 4 Questions Evangelists' Podcast: The Place of Apologetics - part

The Evangelists Podcast

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tep-podcastcover-1024x1024You all subscribe right?

Here’s the last couple of episodes:

Episode 95:Your God will be my God and your people, my people

If that’s conversion, what does evangelism look like?

LISTEN


 

Episode 96: Faith as a Force for Good:

The recent Faith Action Audit from the Cinnamon Network revealed £3 billion worth of faith-based social action happening in the UK annually. What does this mean for evangelism?

This episode begins a series on evangelism and social action. How have they been co-ordinated historically? How should we consider them theologically?

LISTEN


Economics: Andrew Wilson and Vishal Mangalwadi

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A great talk by Andrew Wilson on Economics:

Economics from Kings Church on Vimeo.

He identifies 3 false bogeymen: Profit, Credit and Inequality.

None of these are bad.

What’s bad is: Greed, Laziness and Envy

The solution is: Generosity, Diligence and Thankfulness

These flow from the gospel of grace: all is a gift.

B1044largeIt put me in mind of Vishal Mangalwadi’s excellent ‘The Book That Made Your World’. Mangalwadi writes compellingly of how western culture has been decisively shaped by Christianity – from politics to philanthropy to science to medicine to economics.

On economics, he makes the point that ancient cultures only display or hoard their wealth. Investing wealth doesn’t occur to ancient peoples. This is mainly because our default assumption is to consider the world as a closed system – there are finite resources that get whittled down with every act of consumption. Economics, to the natural mind, can only ever be a zero-sum game. If I want money, I’ll go to war to get wealth. But if I win, you must lose. This is the natural mindset of fallen humanity.

Jesus comes to earth with a heavenly abundance. Because He is a gracious gift from the Father, the closed system of this world is opened out to a fullness that we don’t deserve. The kingdoms of this world may go to war over a finite set of resources but the kingdom of heaven is the realm of a generous Father who knows how to give good gifts to His children. What’s more these gifts, when passed on, multiply. The kingdom of Christ is a shining reality, spreading its goodness. It is a sowing reality, multiplying its life. It is an investing reality, sharing its gifts. (See my recent sermon from CCK on Shining, Sowing, Investing). And in the shining, sowing and investing there is exponential growth.

All of this overturns the tit-for-tat of the flesh. Christianity brings a vision of abundance to the world that released people from fear and beckoned them to risk in the cause of a growing kingdom. It brought a gracious dynamic to a people who were used to keeping themselves to themselves. And it commanded a people who had “freely received” to “freely give.”

Add to this moral factors like: a large degree of honesty in Christendom without which financial systems cannot flourish.; the elimination of corruption; the dignity of man (which means we don’t want slaves to do menial tasks, we invent machines to do it)…

And then, from the reformation onwards, add in a theology of vocation in every walk of life plus a ‘Protestant work ethic’ and you’ve got all the ingredients for a flourishing economy.

But take Christ and His kingdom out of the equation and you’re only left with limited resources, limited hopes, tit-for-tat dynamics and fear, pride and envy calling the shots. Money doesn’t make the world go round – it’s the gospel that makes money go round.

For a taster of Vishal’s stuff, here’s a half hour race through the book:


Happy Ascension Day

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Ascension 1

My favourite depiction of ascension is THIS VIDEO from 1:55

My favourite sermon is Dev Menon’s Classic:

 

Another incredible sermon by Paul Blackham

And this one by Scott Hoezee: “How We See Things–Psalm 47″

 

A Paper From Union TheologySeven Things To Like About the Ascension by Gerrit Dawson

An Ascension Song for Adults:

“He Rose Up”

(lyrics below)

He rose up among us, as told.
He rose up the Promise of old.
My Brother in strife,
Assuming my life.
Exalted, the Father’s Decree
He rose up, He rose up for me.

He rose up humanity’s Last
Man’s Answer in life unsurpassed
My Champion living,
God’s life of thanksgiving.
Exalted as I’m meant to be
He rose up, He rose up for me.

They raised Him, my Saviour, on high
Man lifted, accursed, left to die.
My Priest in atonement,
My Lamb in enthronement.
Exalted on destiny’s tree,
He rose up, He rose up for me.

He rose up from death He arose,
Immortal to crush all His foes.
The Lord of all history,
My Christ has the victory.
Exalted the darkness must flee,
He rose up, He rose up for me.

He rose up to heaven, He rose,
Ascended beyond other thrones.
My Friend in high places,
My Fountain of graces.
Exalted, my heavenly Plea,
He rose up, He rose up for me.

I rise up, I rise up in Him,
Emboldened in spite of all sin.
In Jesus attaining,
My destiny – reigning.
Exalted, with angels to sing,
I rise up, I rise up in Him.

 

Some Ascension Songs for Kids

Ascension Song for Kids    Words

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Moving Houses – The Egypt Song

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More of My Songs

 

 

Other Hymns:

words here

We thank Thee Jesus, Dearest Friend

 

Some Prayers…

The Collects from BCP:

Almighty God, whose blessed Son our Savior Jesus Christ ascended far above all heavens that he might fill all things: Mercifully give us faith to perceive that, according to his promise, he abides with his Church on earth, even to the end of the ages; through the same Jesus Christ our Lord, who liveth and reigneth with thee and the Holy Spirit, one God, in glory everlasting. Amen.

or this

Grant, we beseech thee, Almighty God, that as we do believe thy only-begotten Son our Lord Jesus Christ to have ascended into heaven, so we may also in heart and mind thither ascend, and with him continually dwell; who liveth and reigneth with you and the Holy Spirit, one God, world without end. Amen.

The South Indian Anglican Collect:

O God, whose blessed Son, our great high priest, has entered once for all into the Holy Place and ever liveth to intercede on our behalf: grant that we, sanctified by the offering of his body may draw near with full assurance of faith by the way which he has dedicated for us and evermore serve thee, the living God; through the same thy Son, our Lord Jesus Christ, who liveth and reigneth with thee, O Father, and the Holy Spirit, one God, world without end. Amen.

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God is Joy – Ps 45:7; John 15:11; 1 Tim 1:11. #EnjoyYourDay

#AcronymGospel
OTOH Outgoing Trinity Originates History
ISTM Initial Sin Topples Man
LOL Lord Offers Life
ICYMI InChrist Youre Made Immortal

Being Trinitarian without being explicitly Christ-focused is like writing an Ode to Love with no-one in mind.

You say “Sold out for Jesus”, I say “Purchased in full.”

Human nature isn’t atomistic, it’s Adamistic

The pressure’s off: you don’t need to be right. In fact it’s pretty important that you’re wrong. Tell God and #EnjoyYourDay

“Christ has married us, redeemed us from every evil and adorned us with all His goodness.” #Luther #EnjoyYourDay

Our constant fear: if we’re known we won’t be loved. But John10:14-15, we are seen to the depths & loved to eternity #EnjoyYourDay

The Word became flesh and remains flesh. He has pledged His life, His future, His very being to us forevermore. #EnjoyYourDay

To enter the kingdom you must become like great warriors? Bible experts? Sinless saints? No – little children. Matt18:3 #EnjoyYourDay

#Ps32 All transgressions forgiven&sins covered. Hidden in Christ. Protected from trouble. Surrounded by songs of deliverance #EnjoyYourDay

In the Bible the empty tomb isn’t so much about proving God’s entrance into human affairs. It’s announcing Man’s entrance into God’s affairs

God’s 7-fold promise to His enslaved people: I will unburden, free, redeem, possess, protect, deliver & lavish you. #Exodus6 #EnjoyYourDay

Don’t fear: I’m with u. Dont be dismayed: I’m yr God. I’ll strengthen&help u; I’ll uphold u with my righteous Right Hand #Is41 #EnjoyYourDay

I know it’s popular to say that gospel transformation is “inside-out” but give me an external gospel word any day.

In the Bible, saying “I don’t love my wife” is a confession & u should repent of such sin. Today, it’s an excuse 4 u2 repent of the marriage

[Marriage Guidance Today]
-But do u love her?
-I don’t know anymore

[Marriage Guidance in the Bible]
-I don’t know if I love her
-Then do!

“Whoever comes to me I will NEVER cast away.” (John 6:37) #Promise #EnjoyYourDay

Jesus: Self-abasing Slave & Sacrificial Lamb – HE reveals the name and nature of God. #nogodlikeHim #Phil2 #EnjoyYourDay

In #Matthew14, Jesus “begins to” let Peter sink. But “immediately” He responds to his cry. #EnjoyYourDay

Free will lies on the far side of free grace.

Through the cross (Ps 22:1-21), Jesus becomes your Priest (v22-31). First He bears yr sin, then He bears u b4 the Father #EnjoyYourDay

Vote, but remember that our Man is already on the true seat of power. Just, Gentle, Wiser than Solomon, Beyond reproach & ONE OF US! #EnjoyYourDay

Because of resurrection, the worst thing is never the last thing. #EnjoyYourDay

My desire to overcome sins:
70% ‘to prop up my view of me / yr view of me';
15% ‘to avoid humbling myself';
10% ‘to manage w/o God’s grace’

This is why repentance has to be a gift. It’s not our new life offered to God but His new life offered to us even in all our mixed motives.

‘Nature’ does not encourage a ‘natural’ approach to God. Creation is a preacher, heralding words from on high. (Psalm 19:1ff; Romans 10:17f)

“To one who does not work but trusts God who justifies the ungodly their faith is credited as righteousness.” Rom5:5 #EnjoyYourDay

1Cor1:2 Dear Christian, you are set apart as special by Jesus Christ and called holy in Him. In other words, You’re a saint #EnjoyYourDay

“Your people will be my people and your God will be my God” (Ruth 1:16). If that’s conversion, what should evangelism look like?

“Come home, all is forgiven. Love, your Dad.”
— 2 Corinthians 5:19-20 paraphrase

Many people seek ‘God’ but no-one seeks the God of the cross.

The cross upholds God’s sovereignty.

I believe in the existence of angels, you believe ‘death really aint so bad’. Which is the fairytale belief?

The world’s heaven is heaven’s hell #Romans1

All you’ve ever got is Christ’s righteousness. All you ever need is Christ’s righteousness. #EnjoyYourDay

It’s not: ‘law=duty / gospel=love’
It’s: ‘law = your loving duty for the Lord / gospel = the Lord’s loving duty for you.’

“It’s all about u” – world
“It’s not about u, it’s about Jesus” – law.
“It’s not about u, it’s about Jesus FOR YOU” – gospel (ht @IssuesEtc)

#Isaiah25 Salvation = shame removed, death swallowed up, tears wiped away & global feasting with Christ #EnjoyYourDay

If someone’s forgiven you a major debt you’ve gotta be some kind of jerk to insist ‘it wasn’t so bad really’. #selfjustification

Dear reader, I am that kind of jerk.

#Lev17 Jesus says: “My Life is in the blood and I have given it to you to make atonement.” He holds nothing back. #EnjoyYourDay

- Does money make the world go round?
– It certainly torques.

Knuckle sandwiches are fine. Just roll with the punches.

Their father managed. In Ireland that’s Pa for the Corrs.

Lucky S. Cape was a man of phew words.

That was, hands down, the worst hustings ever.

I could tell he went to public school. He had that harrowed look.

I tried playing the *bad* health lottery. Fat lotto good.

If I’m frank, when it comes to karaoke I get stuck in my ways.

Those Weight Watchers reps are real fast talkers.

My last minute selection for the Anaesthetists’ World Cup is nice but I can’t help thinking I’m only there to make up the numbers.

The Hindu Scriptures are basically untranslatable. What happens in Vedas stays in Vedas.

90% of success is just showing up. Unless you’re a projectionist, in which case a variety of films is best.

I like the M6 but Spaghetti Junction’s a major turnoff.

I didn’t think my chiropractor could fix my posture but I stand corrected

The iCloud’s fine but Dropbox gets my backup

“Ah Bisto!” isn’t the greatest slogan. It’s just a stock phrase

Shining, Sowing and Investing in Christ’s Outgoing Kingdom

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A sermon on SHINING (Matthew 5:14-16); SOWING (Mark 4:26-29) and INVESTING (Matthew 25:14-30)

Parables: Outgoing King, Outgoing Kingdom from CCK on Vimeo.

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House of Tweet

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What’s the place of “apologetics”? I debate the issue with Tom Price ()

If by “apologetics” you mean “persuasive, thoughful, contextualised gospel preaching” then Yay Apologetics! But 1Cor1&2 rules out Something

If apologetics = “evangelism in the mode of answering Qs” I am 100% pro-apologetics. If it’s separate then it’s “evangel +”

-Today gospel preaching isn’t working
-U sure it’s the gospel that’s being preached?
-Oh sure, I’m talking about *evangelical* churches
-Hm

-Yeah we still believe in preaching but we need more
-Like a prayerful, loving community living it out?
-I was thinking of a new website.

Jesus doesn’t so much make safe passage for us back to heaven. But He has made treacherous passage for Himself down to us. #EnjoyYourDay

In Christ ur members of God’s flock, purchased by God’s blood, fed by God’s word & surrounded by God’s grace. Acts20 #EnjoyYourDay

- I fear the church will miss the next big move of God.
– Impossible, the church IS the move of God.

It’ll be alright in the End. If it’s not alright now, it’s not the End. #EnjoyYourDay

Astonishing to think that God remains Giver even in judgement: “He gave them over… He gave them over.. He gave them over…” Rom1:24,26,28

We’re all cut from the one cloth (Adam).
We must be clothed with the One cut (Christ).

Want proof of ‘the Divine’ breaking into this world? Look to the virgin womb. The empty tomb is more abt ‘the Human’ breaking into the next

#Exodus12 It’s not the quality of your life ‘in here’ that counts. It’s the quality of His death ‘out there’ that saves #EnjoyYourDay

By the Spirit of the Son you have a new spiritual heart-beat: Abba, Father… Abba, Father… Abba, Father… (Gal 4:6) #EnjoyYourDay

In Athens – Paul was not channelling Socrates but Elijah.

He didn’t rescue u so He could delight in u. He delighted in u & so rescued u. Ps 18. U’ve been loved at your worst. #EnjoyYourDay

Naturally the human race casts God as a hard task-master, not because He is one, but because it suits us to quietly despise and dismiss Him.

“The LORD’s unfailing love surrounds the one who trusts in Him.” (Psalm 32:10) #EnjoyYourDay

Not just net gainers. Even our greatest suffering redeemed 2 greater glory: More than conquerors thru Him who loved us! #EnjoyYourDay

“You are my Beloved Child, I’m thrilled with you” – the Verdict we all want from the Father we all crave. And it’s ours in Jesus #EnjoyYourDay

Only Sinners love (Luke 7:36-50). Therefore every sin is an opportunity to know yr indebtedness and the forgiveness of Jesus #EnjoyYourDay

“My child, get up” He will say. And u will rise 2 feasting joy, complete astonishment & face-to-face with Jesus (Luke 8:40-56) #EnjoyYourDay

Who qualifies 4 Christ’s Kingdom? The powerless, the wicked, the little children: Lk18:1-17. Don’t reach up, receive where u r #EnjoyYourDay

“Now death is but a Jacob’s ladder whose foot is in the dark grave, but its top reaches to glory everlasting.” Spurgeon

Exodus: Abraham’s seed (God’s son) Redeemed from Slavery(1-6), thru Judgement(7-14), into Dependence(15-18,24), Love(19-23) &Worship(25-40)

I find Twitter discussions are often more fruitful than blog discussions since each side engages each point as the dialogue develops.

Blogging debates can easily become two guys shadow-boxing in their own corners. Twitter forces you to engage each point as it arises.

You know the tree of life in the garden of God? That’s not just for religious art. That’s for *you* to eat from (Rev 2:7) #EnjoyYourDay

Your sorrows He carries, your infirmities He takes up, your sins He bears. (Is 53) Your weaknesses only draw Him closer #EnjoyYourDay

He’s the Judge of the world, the Revelation of God and a gentle, lowly Rest-Giver: Matt 11:20-30. #EnjoyYourDay

If you’re going to sing to your plants “Deutschland, Deutschland, Uber Alles” is best. It aids germannation.

Gangrene costs an almondy leg.

“Which” magazine have me ranking colas all day long. It’s soda grading.

I dunno if it’s high cuisine but asparagers is definitely on the haute-istic spectrum.

Threshers wined me up

An ancient shoe-makers guild? Load of old cobblers.

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Wait a minute. Did Jesus wash His own feet? It’s hard to picture it. If He didn’t then He only got dirtier as He cleansed the rest.

#ThingsJesusNeverSaid “Now that I’ve washed your feet, you wash mine.” #GraceRunsDownhill

Our God is none other than the God of the Cross – the God who has pledged His own being for us with every drop of His blood. #EnjoyYourDay

If you want to know why Jesus died I’ve got two words for you #1PUN

#TGIGF ‘Worthy is the Lamb, who was slain, to receive power & wealth & wisdom & strength & honour & glory & praise.’ (Rev 5:12)

Just did the “Which Good Friday character are you?” quiz. Thought I’d definitely be the crowd. Funnily enough I got “Jesus”. –Gal 2:20

“He made Himself nothing/He humbled Himself/Even death on a cross. Therefore *HIM* God exalted.” The cross is what it looks like to be God.

Today is the real ‘compare & contrast’ with Islam. For the Muslim, judgement day is a Friday in the future. For the Christian it’s all past.

For the Muslim, an unrighteous substitute died for righteous Jesus. For Christians, righteous Jesus died as a substitute for unrighteous us.

Reading the passion narratives is a great reminder that the cross achieved nothing. Jesus dying accomplished everything.

Creation – in Christ under Adam
Incarnation – Christ in creation as Adam
Cross – Christ for creation as Adam

Resurrection – Christ over creation by Spirit
Pentecost – Christ to creation by Spirit
Return – Christ through creation by Spirit

“But we had hoped…” (Luke 24:13-35) What have you hoped in? It will be transformed and more than restored by the risen Jesus #EnjoyYourDay

The 7th day. Rest. Completion. The old order summed up and brought to an end. Tomorrow: a whole new world.

Resurrection does not correct or counter the way of the cross, it forever crowns the way of the cross.

We’ve seen the future: BBQs on the beach, country walks, heart-warming talks, feasting and face2face with Jesus, #Resurrection #EnjoyYourDay

Yes the resurrection vindicates the atonement of the cross. But so much more: it vindicates The CHRIST of the cross and His Way of the cross

It’s not so much a case of “the cross worked” as “The Lamb has conquered – in all His sacrificial Lamb-ness.”

Once again – the cross didn’t do anything. The Lamb did everything.

John 20: Jesus rose with scars and calls His followers the way of the cross (John 21). #EasterMeans the Lamb reigns

Romans 8: it’s our unshakeable resurrection hope that sustains us to suffer ‘like sheep to be slaughtered.’ #EasterMeans the Lamb reigns

1 Corinthians 15: Resurrection means we can now ‘die every day.’ #EasterMeans the Lamb reigns.

Phil2: The resurrection vindicates the self-emptying Slave/Sacrifice & now Paul & Tim pour themselves out. #EasterMeans the Lamb reigns

Phil3: “I want to know Christ & the power of His resurrection and the fellowship of sharing in His sufferings.” #EasterMeans the Lamb reigns

Rev5: The Lamb stands at the centre of the throne so that all creation sings of His sacrifice. #EasterMeans the Lamb reigns

They didn’t seek 1st the Kingdom, they fled the King. Yet the King pursued the disciples thru death 2 find them & say “Peace” #EnjoyYourDay

The Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you. Rom8:11 #EnjoyYourDay

The question “Does God exist?” doesn’t make much sense on a Christian understanding. Everyone’s got a god. The Q is Which god is really God?

Isaiah 60: Now that the Light of the world has risen for you, YOU shine with radiant glory. #passiton #EnjoyYourDay

Our Spiritual Doctor has a prescription: “Take to aspirin’ and call Me in the mourning.”

“There’s no team in Ai.” (Joshua 7:3)

Customs official at Munich Airport: “Strange, you Australians usually come in Oktober.” All I could do was apologise.

I love collecting Hebrew words – can I get an Amen?

Depict Europe’s tallest mountain? I’m drawing a blanc.

Tried ordering from “Pistachios To You”. It’s driving me nuts.

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Born Sinking Into Quicksand (Hebrews 2:14-18)

Jesus Going Up – His People Going Out (Matthew 28:10-18)

Evangelists’ Podcast: Answering Unbelievers’ Top 4 Questions

Evangelists’ Podcast: The Place of Apologetics – part one

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The Place of Apologetics in Our Proclamation

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I’ve been involved in a couple of discussions about apologetics with Tom Price from the Oxford Centre for Christian Apologetics. It began when David Meredith tweeted out this:

I enthusiastically retweeted it. Tom pushed back and we ended up having this discussion.

That got picked up by folks at Premier Christianity and so we wrote a couple of brief defenses of our positions. Now I didn’t choose the wording of the “motion” and wish it had been different, but we ended up debating the proposition: “Apologetic sermons rarely work.” My case for the affirmative begins like this:

Being ‘anti-apologetics’ is like being ‘anti-good works’. Who could possibly be against good works? Well, every Protestant is – if those good works are placed on the wrong side of the line. Good works are great. But their proper place is on the far side of knowing Jesus.

Revelation is exactly parallel to salvation (John 17:3) – to know God is to be saved by him and vice versa. Therefore, just as we don’t work our way towards God (and get topped up by grace), so we don’t think our way towards God (and get topped up by revelation). The arrow must come all the way down. Gospel preaching, then, is not bottom-up philosophizing, it’s top-down proclamation.

In hindsight I wish I’d stated in the clearest possible terms that what many consider to be “apologetics” is simply what I’d call thoughtful, responsive, contextualised evangelism. If all a person means by “apologetics” is simply answering people’s questions then sign me up – I’m a keen apologist.

But the trouble is that apologetics has, unfortunately, become something else – something in addition to gospel proclamation. And wherever people want to make a case for another kind of proclamation other than a top-down declaration of God’s word, then I take issue.

You can read the whole of my piece, Tom’s defense and the lively comments thread HERE.

As a taster, here’s my comment on Acts 17:

If you ask me Acts 17 is a classical apologist’s one shot at a Scriptural example – and in it, Paul does the complete opposite. He babbles on about Jesus and the resurrection in the market place (*not* the most reasonable starting point for the Athenian philosophers!) When asked to step back and give the big picture he is very rude to them. He tells them how superstitious they are. He is incensed by their idolatry. He doesn’t think “Ooo, look at all these potential stepping stones to truth faith.” He thinks “Look at the ignorance.” He makes fun of the fact they’re so ignorant, they’ve even got an unknown god. So he tells them “The one thing you guys know is that you don’t know God.” Then he declares God to them in a way that is 180 degrees different to their understanding of God and the world (we live in his world, he doesn’t live in ours, etc, etc). Yes he quotes their poets (I quote pop culture too!) but he quotes them *against* the prevailing cultural narrative. He then does an Adam and Christ christology (which none of them would have thought “reasonable”). Then he announces that they must all repent of their ignorance because God has raised this man from the dead. Says who? Where’s your proof Paul? No that *is* Paul’s proof. He announces the resurrection (without any supporting evidence whatsoever!) and expects them to repent. Some do! Others want to continue dialoguing – Paul doesn’t seem interested at this point so he leaves.

If you’re an apologetics-lover I’d say:

1) Make sure you understand what it is I’m opposing. I love, practice and completely endorse engaging with non-Christians and non-Christian world-views – I just want to make sure my “answering words” are gospel words. Click the apologetics tag here and see that for every post about rejecting bottom-up philosophizing there are five posts on positively engaging with culture, science, religion, atheism, the news, etc.

2) Realise I’m not at all “anti-reason”. I just happen to think that the race of Adam is anti-reason. The word of the cross is the very definition of rationality – it’s just that the wisdom of this world will never agree with it.

3) The Bible’s verses about our hostile minds and the stark opposition of the gospel to human philosophy need to be faced with the utmost seriousness (e.g. Romans 1:20ff; 8:9; 1 Cor 1-3; 2 Cor 10:4-5; Eph 4:17-19; Col 2:8-9). Paul is ruling out something here. Make sure you’re not doing the thing he’s opposing.

4) If you’re lifting high the name of Jesus, you are my brother/sister and I thank God for you. Be blessed.

“The Sacrifice” by George Herbert

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“The Sacrifice” by George Herbert:

OH all ye, who passe by, whose eyes and minde
To worldly things are sharp, but to me blinde;
To me, who took eyes that I might you finde:
Was ever grief like mine?

Judas, dost thou betray me with a kisse?
Canst thou finde hell about my lips? and misse
Of life, just at the gates of life and blisse?
Was ever grief like mine?

Then they condemne me all with that same breath,
Which I do give them daily, unto death.
Thus Adam my first breathing rendereth:
Was ever grief like mine?

Behold, they spit on me in scornfull wise,
Who by my spittle gave the blinde man eies,
Leaving his blindnesse to my enemies:
Was ever grief like mine?

The souldiers also spit upon that face,
Which Angels did desire to have the grace,
And Prophets, once to see, but found no place:
Was ever grief like mine?

O all ye who passe by, behold and see;
Man stole the fruit, but I must climbe the tree;
The tree of life to all, but onely me:
Was ever grief like mine?

In healing not my self, there doth consist
All that salvation, which ye now resist;
Your safetie in my sicknesse doth subsist:
Was ever grief like mine?

Read the whole astonishing poem